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2.0 TFSI/2.0 TDI - Brake upgrade
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mesaj Aug 12 2009, 09:29 PM
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Marcile si modelele avute in vedere :

Golf V GTI
Golf V Edition 30
Golf V 2.0 TDI
Seat Leon 2TFSI
Seat Leon Fr
Seat Leon 2.0 TDI
Seat Leon Cupra 2
Audi A3 2TFSI
Audi S3
...

Sistemele de franare OEM

Audi S3 | Audi TT (3.2l) | VW R32 | Seat Cupra 2

Frane fata > 345mm x 30mm, discuri ventilate, etrier cu un piston

Frane spate > 310mm x 22mm, discuri ventilate


Audi A3 (2.0l TFSI) | Audi TT (2.0l TFSI) | VW Golf GT/I (2.0l TFSI | 2.0l TDI) | Seat Leon FR (2.0l TFSI | 2.0l TDI)

Frane fata > 312mm x 25mm, discuri ventilate, etrier cu un piston

Frane spate > 286mm x 12mm, discuri solide


Audi A3 fwd/awd

Frane fata > 288mm x 25mm, discuri ventilate, etrier cu un piston

Frane spate > 286mm x 12mm, discuri solide


Audi A3 fwd

Frane fata 280mm x 22mm, discuri ventilate, etrier cu un piston

Frane spate 255mm x 10mm, discuri solide

Nu am date despre modelele 1.4 TSI, GT, ... de la Golf dar este posibil ca sistemul de prindere sa fie acelasi cu cele mai sus mentionate.

Stage 1 >

- placute de frana performante > Mintex, EBC, Hawk...oricat de stupid ar parea Ferodo nu a scos inca un set
- discuri de frana perforate/santate sau pline de inalta performanta ( aici este mai mult marketing decat adevar) > Zimmermann, Stoptech, AP racing, Brembo...
- furtune metalice > Goodridge, Neuspeed, ECS...daca nu ma insel tot Goodridge le face si pentru ceilalti
- lichid de frana de inalta performanta > Motul RBF600 sau Castrol SRF

Stage 2 > se aplica tuturor modelelor, exceptand prima categorie (S3/R32/TT 3.2L/Cupra 2).

Sistemul de franare fata de S3/R32/TT 3.2L/Cupra 2 este considerat a fi unul foarte eficient, comparabil chiar cu sisteme aftermarket renumite. Componentele sistemului :

- brake caliper left blue > 1K0 615 123 G
- brake caliper right blue > 1K0 615 124 G
- caliper carrier blue > 1K0 615 125 F
- retaining spring > 4F0 615 269
- brake disc ventilated 345x30 5/112 > 1K0 615 301 M
- splash shield for brake disc left > 1K0 615 311 C
- splash shield for brake disc right > 1K0 615 312 C
- brake pads with wear indicator > 1K0 698 151 B
- hexagonal head bolt M8x12 > N 907 186 02
- brake hose > 1K0 611 701 N
- brake pipe hose from brake hose to piston housing left > 1K0 611 763 A
- brake pipe hose from brake hose to piston housing right > 1K0 611 764 A
- retaining clip > 191 611 715
- bracket for brake hose left > 1K0 611 841 A
- bracket for brake hose right > 1K0 611 842 A

Durata de instalare este de aproximativ 3 ore (depinde si de aerisirea sistemului de franare)

PS : codurile etrierelor difera intre S3, R32 si Cupra doar datorita culorii. Eu i-am luat pe cei de R32 pentru ca erau cei mai ieftini si i-am vopsit ulterior

Stage 3 > se aplica tuturor modelelor

FRONT

- Movit > 322mm x 32mm
Movit 4 piston caliper Big Brake upgrade
Comes with: 2 piece Rotors with cast holes and ventilation slots, aluminum hats, 4 piston calipers, brake pads, brackets, steel braided brake lines and bolts to mount the kit. The only thing that's not included is brake fluid. Black or Red calipers standard, other colors: $299 extra

- Brembo GT > 328mm x 28mm > $2595+
Comes with: 2 Piece 328x28mm Slotted and Drilled Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Stoptech > 328mm x 28mm > $1895+
Comes with: 2 Piece Floating Directional 328x28mm AeroRotors (comes drilled or slotted and/or zinc coated, 4 Piston ST-40 Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Stasis Monobloc4 > 328mm x 28mm
Comes with:ALCON 4 Piston Monobloc Calipers, ALCON 328mm x 28mm(14") Floating Rotors, STaSIS Caliper Mounting Bracket & Hardware, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided Lines, Motul brake fluid, SBS Hi Performance Brake Pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- AP Racing 6 piston Caliper > 330mm x 28mm
Comes with: 2 Piece 330x28mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 6 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 18"+ wheels

- AP Racing 4 piston Caliper 330mm x 28mm
Comes with: 2 Piece 330x28mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 18"+ wheels

- Brembo GT > 330mm x 28mm > $1895+
Comes with: 1 Piece 330x28mm Slotted or Drilled Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Eurospec Sport > 330mm x 28mm
Comes with:Eurospec 4-piston calipers, adapter brackets, pads, Goodridge stainless steel brake lines, and all mounting hardware
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Ksport > 330mm x 28mm
Comes with:2 Piece 330mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 8 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- RPI Equipped > 330mm x 30mm > $1895+
Comes with: 2 Piece 330x30mm Slotted and Drilled Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Wilwood Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Movit 4 piston caliper > 342mm x 34mm
Comes with: 2 piece Rotors with cast holes and ventilation slots, aluminum hats, 4 piston calipers, brake pads, brackets, steel braided brake lines and bolts to mount the kit. The only thing that's not included is brake fluid. Black or Red calipers standard, other colors: $299 extra

- Movit 6 piston caliper > 342mm x 34mm
Comes with: 2 piece Rotors with cast holes and ventilation slots, aluminum hats, 6 piston calipers, brake pads, brackets, steel braided brake lines and bolts to mount the kit. The only thing that's not included is brake fluid. Black or Red calipers standard, other colors: $299 extra

- Stasis 4 piston caliper Big Brake upgrade > 355mm x 28mm > 2995$
Comes with:ALCON 4 Piston Monobloc Calipers, ALCON 355mm x 28mm(14") Floating Rotors, STaSIS Caliper Mounting Bracket & Hardware, Goodridge Stainless Steel Braided Lines, Motul brake fluid, SBS Hi Performance Brake Pads

- Brembo GT > 355mm x 28mm
Comes with: 2 Piece 355x28mm Slotted or Drilled Vaned Rotors, 4 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 17"+ wheels

- Eurospec Sport Big Brake upgrade $
Comes with:Eurospec 4-piston calipers, adapter brackets, pads, Goodridge stainless steel brake lines, and all mounting hardware
Requires: 18"+ wheels

- Ksport Big Brake upgrade $
Comes with:2 Piece 356mm Slotted Vaned Rotors, 8 Piston Calipers, Caliper Mounting Brackets, Stainless Steel Brake Lines (Front Only), and Street Performance Pads (Front Only)
Requires: 18"+ wheels

- Autotech/AP Racing > 362mm x 32mm > $2995+
Comes with:6 piston calipers, 362mm x 32mm directional vaned rotors, lightweight 7075 aluminum rotor hats, caliper brackets, pads and brake lines
Requires: 18"+ wheels and Installation (spacers may be required depending on wheel offset)

- Stasis 4 piston caliper Big Brake upgrade > 370mm x 28mm > 3395$
Comes with:ALCON 4 Piston Calipers, ALCON 370mm x 28mm (14.5") Floating Rotors, STaSIS Caliper Mounting, Bracket & Hardware, Goodridge Stainless Steel, Braided Lines, Motul brake fluid, SBS Hi Performance Brake Pads

- Movit 4 piston caliper Big Brake upgrade > 380mm x 32mm
Comes with: 2 piece Rotors with cast holes and ventilation slots, aluminum hats, 6 piston calipers, brake pads, brackets, steel braided brake lines and bolts to mount the kit. The only thing that's not included is brake fluid. Black or Red calipers standard, other colors: $299 extra

- Movit 6 piston caliper Big Brake upgrade > 380mm x 32mm
Comes with: 2 piece Rotors with cast holes and ventilation slots, aluminum hats, 6 piston calipers, brake pads, brackets, steel braided brake lines and bolts to mount the kit. The only thing that's not included is brake fluid. Black or Red calipers standard, other colors: $299 extra

REAR

- Audi S3/TT 3.2l/VW R32 310mm Rear Big Brake Kit > 310mm x 22mm > $695+
Comes with:OE rotors, calipers, carriers and Mintex brake pads
Requires: 17"+ wheels

Pentru majoritatea cazurilor, sistemul de franare fata de pe Audi S3 este suficient. La puteri de peste 300CP sau condus in regim de circuit pe perioade lungi de timp se justifica upgrade-ul si la sistemul spate de franare, respectiv la kiturile aftermarket mai mari. Cei ce cred ca un kit de franare compus din etrieri cu 8 pistoane si discuri de 380mm va frana in jumatate din distanta unui sistem de franare OEM se inseala. Distantele de franare vor fi reduse cu maxim 2-4 metri, doar fade-ul se va imbunatati considerabil. Prin comparatie daca un GTI cu frane stock franeaza in 40m de la 100kmh, un Porsche GT3franeaza in aproximativ 35m de la aceeasi viteza. O reducere mai mare a distantei de franare nu se face decat in regim de curse unde un set de placute/discuri/cauciucuri trebuie sa tina
cateva sute de kilometri ! O alta observatie ar fi aceea ca "franare buna" si "durata lunga a placutelor/discurilor" nu merg impreuna.

Imagini de la instalarea sistemului de franare fata OEM de Golf R32/S3

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mesaj Aug 12 2009, 11:07 PM
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